What is up theology nerds? This is Tripp, and you're listening to Homebrewed Christianity, and today on the podcast, returning is the dynamic theological duo of Grace G's son Kim and Susan Shaw.

They co-authored a brand new book, Surviving God, a new vision of God through the eyes of

sexual abuse survivors. And in this conversation, we dig into it, reflect on the nature of

thinking, theologically, at intersectional ways, through the experience of people who've experienced

deep, abuse, shame, and harm.

And we also talk about what it's like to have a theological tag team partner like

Grace and Susan have in each other.

And we know just, this is like their second book together and we already heard.

You're going to hear that they have a third coming out.

So, buckle the theological safety belt.

Now, before we jump in, two things, my dear friends.

Number one, this June, we're going to be having an open online class here at Homebrew.

Faith and politics for the rest of us.

My friend Diana Butler Bass and Tim Whitaker

from the new evangelicals are partnering with me on this class, and we are going to be exploring

alternatives. That's right, alternatives to the ugly public theologies of the present. And we're

going to be joined by a number of different scholars.

Reggie Williams, Kevin Carnahan, Julie Ingersoll, Jennifer Harvey, Jonathan Wilson,

Hartgroves, and Robert P. Jones, all are going to be a part of this class.

You can join it up.

Donate anything you want between zero and a million dollars at faith and politics.net. And last, last, if you enjoy hanging out

with Grace in this episode, then come hang out with us in person at Theology Beer Camp. That's right.

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