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The one thing I'm unequivocally clear about is that the real return will be lower. That's

true whether we're talking about stocks or bonds. No matter what your investment is, because

inflation is higher, your real returns are going to be lower.

Hello and welcome to the Baron Streetwise Podcast. I'm Jack Howe. And the voice you just

heard, that's Mike Wilson. He's the chief investment officer at Morgan Stanley. And he

says that US stocks have entered the death zone. I feel like that's probably negative, but

we'll see. We'll also hear from Alistair Pinder, his US stock strategist at UBS. And he says,

it's a particularly good time to buy dividend stocks. We'll hear why.

Filling in for Jackson as our audio producer is meta. Hi, meta. Hi, Jack. I want to read to you

a headline. I follow some of these science accounts on Twitter. And sometimes I just drop something

without a lot of context. And I don't know how concerned to be on a scale from let's say one to

just abject pants wedding terror. How should I feel about the following? It says, breaking.

Runaway black hole. The size of 20 million sons has been spotted traveling through space.

I mean, right off the top, like the word runaway. I thought first of all in space that all motion

was like relative. So how do you know who's running away from from whom? Although maybe they just

mean runaway isn't it's growing out of control, which is even more of a problem. And then

spotted traveling through space. Like I think space I'm pretty sure is big. So we're in space,

like how far roughly. And then 20 million sons. I'm not an astro. I'm not an astronomer.

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