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The Indicator from Planet Money

Government shutdown fallout, price floors, and AI slop against the machine

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

It’s … Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today’s episode: Frozen and canceled federal dollars, America’s intensifying tit-for-tat with China, and a sloppy trend infiltrating the music business. (With a pocket full of shells.)

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China's trade war perspective 
Fighting AI with AI 

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0:00.0

NPR. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Whalen Wong. And I'm Adrienne Ma and I'm Darym Woods.

0:17.1

Do you guys feel that in the air? I...

0:21.3

Allergy season?

0:22.4

It is for me. That's true.

0:24.7

What do you smell in there? Pumpkin spice?

0:26.5

In addition to antihistamines and pumpkin spice, it is Indicators of the Week.

0:32.2

Favorite time of the week?

0:33.3

Indicator of the Week.

0:34.7

Today on the show, we have frozen federal dollars.

0:37.9

An escalating trade war with China.

0:40.1

And a strange trend infiltrating the music business.

0:44.0

After the break.

0:48.4

I want it that way.

0:49.7

Was a Backstreet Boys' banger?

0:51.1

But was it also a secret economics lesson?

0:54.0

If you watch the music video, you can really see an illustration of the concept of comparative

0:58.7

advantage.

0:59.6

All right.

1:00.0

In our most recent bonus episode, we compete to see who can pick the most Planet Money song,

1:05.7

movie, and more from 1999.

1:07.8

It's our first ever Planet Money pop culture draft, and you can hear it and support our

1:12.4

work by signing up for NPR Plus at plus.npr.org.

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