Well, Bill, we've all been following with interest this report that was to be released

by the military on UFOs, and it was released back in June. Not much in it. Have you been following

this UFO port phrase?

Right.

When I was a high school student, I was really into this subject, and I followed the work

of Jay Allen Heineck, who was a professor of Northwestern University, who was a UFO specialist,

and I found it very, very interesting to try to understand what in the world these aerial

phenomena could be. I'd lost interest in it since that time, but it was fascinating

to find that, again, the US military is taking this very seriously and wants to have some

sort of explanation for these unidentified flying objects.

A couple of things just that stood out from the report, Bill that I looked at, they had

a little summary, and first of all, they looked at reports between 2004 and 2021, and then

the second thing is that most of these unidentified flying object reports probably do represent

physical objects, because the majority of them reading it here were registered across

a multiple sensors. That means radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapons, seekers, and visual

observations. So they said, yeah, there's a physical component to most of these. They

did offer a caveat that said, you know, these sensors and the things that we use to identify

are most of the time for a specific task. They're not for hunting UFOs, you know.

What is significant, it means that they're not simply optical phenomena, either hallucinatory

or optical illusions like a rainbow, but there is that physical element. That's highly significant,

I should think. Obviously, this brings up a lot of theological, scriptural indications,

and David Instone Brewer, who's an honorary senior research fellow at Tindale House Cambridge,

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