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Hello, everybody.

This is Victor Hansen, and I'm alone today, as I do often with our interviews, Jack and Sammy.

You'll be hearing from them later in the week. But I'm bringing back one of our guests who's

appeared a few times on the interview. Stephen Quay, if you remember, he was the distinguished

business person, but also an MD scientist, author, head of Atossa

therapeutics researcher. He wrote a book, remember in 2021, which we talked about at length,

the origins of the virus. And he did a lot of discussion online with us about the genetic sequence and was one of the first people to really argue persuasively for a Wuhan lab origin of the virus at a time when we were getting a lot of disinformation.

But what we want to talk to him today about is the status of public health, but especially what he sees as the

challenges in the new Trump administration. And look at some of these appointees, some of whom he

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