from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

The Armstrong and Gettyshow.

New Road, which are by his own man of integrity, still, I think he's been wrong in nearly every

major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.

I think he's gotten a lot wrong.

You're talking all through the years as vice president and set post every one of Ronald

Reagan's military programs to contest the Soviet Union.

He opposed the first Gulf War.

That list goes on.

But do you think you made a mistake in Afghanistan in the way he handled the withdrawal?

Yes.

Yeah, that was Robert Gates.

He was on 60 minutes.

That's pretty good. I was actually going to go back and watch the extra long cut they

have on the CBS app because I find him fascinating guy.

And he's clearly not his former secretary defense under Obama and Bush.

So he's worked for both parties.

He is one of the very few people out there who doesn't clearly try to pick a side on these

things.

It might be the only one I can think of, actually.

Right.

He's a straight dealer.

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