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Government as Shareholder: Proactive Competitive Strategy or Last Resort?

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🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Global powers are increasingly shaping markets and taking equity positions in strategic industries. But recently, Washington’s role in the economy has expanded, with stakes in companies like Intel, different from its traditionally hands-off approach. Could strategic government investment be a source of strength and competitiveness—or should it remain a true last resort, preserving a system that allows markets to determine winners and losers? We debate: Government as Shareholder: Proactive Competitive Strategy or Last Resort?  This debate was created in partnership with the Council on Foreign Relations and was recorded on May 18, 2026, at 6 PM.  Arguing "Proactive Competitive Strategy":  Laura Taylor-Kale, Senior Fellow for Geoeconomics and Defense at the Council of Foreign Relations and Former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Industrial Base Policy  Richard Falkenrath, Senior Fellow for National Security at the Council on Foreign Relations; MJ Chung Distinguished Chair at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University  Arguing "Last Resort":  Bob Pozen, Distinguished Senior Lecturer at MIT Sloan School of Management; Former President of Fidelity Investments  Yasheng Huang, Epoch Foundation Professor of Global Economics and Management at the MIT Sloan School of Management; Author of "The Rise and the Fall of the EAST”  Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates  Join the conversation on Substack - share your perspective on this episode and subscribe to our weekly newsletter for curated insights from our debaters, moderators, and staff.  Follow us on YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, X, Facebook, and TikTok to stay connected with our mission and ongoing debates.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is open to debate. I'm John Donvan. Delighted to be on stage in New York at the

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headquarters of the Council on Foreign Relations, our continuing partner in a series of debates

0:37.6

that examine the implications of decisions being made

0:40.4

at the highest levels of government and power.

0:43.3

One such set of decisions making a lot of news right now

0:46.2

is the burgeoning pattern of the U.S. government

0:49.2

taking stock of private American companies,

0:52.5

buying stock into those companies.

0:55.4

It's all over the headlines.

1:00.1

We're seeing it covered by the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, the economist, foreign affairs,

1:06.5

and many more. Companies that are being bought include the chipmaker Intel, an array of mining enterprises. Now, this is not the first time, of course, that the government has bought

1:10.2

pieces of private business. It has happened in wartime. It happened during the financial crisis where Uncle Sam

1:16.4

ended up with stock in banks and general mowners and Chrysler and the insurance giant AIG.

1:21.9

But those were always in response to an emergency. And by design, they were temporary. Now, it's more about national security

1:31.9

and competition with China and technological supremacy, a contest that is built around microchips

1:38.8

and rare earth minerals. So that's different this time, also different in the sense that this is not temporary,

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