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H.B.R. presents. Hi, I'm Zee Mazar and you're listening to a special summer episode of the Exponential View

podcast. Look, I know we're meant to be away on holiday, but we didn't want to leave you several weeks without any great conversations.

So right now I want to share with you a panel conversation I hosted at the CogX Festival of AI in London back in June. To discuss the issue of governance and ethics

and AI, I brought together two leading academics in the field. DeKai is the professor of computer

science and engineering, the Hong Kong University of

Science and Technology, and Joanna Bryson, a professor at the University of Bath in the United

Kingdom, where she founded the Bath Intelligence Systems Group.

So please enjoy our conversation. It was a live

panel conversation in front of an audience of several hundred, so slightly different

format to what you'll normally get out of exponential view. Good morning everyone.

My name is Azim Azar.

I'll just give a brief introduction to myself

in Dicai and Joanna if you can do the same.

So I'm a founder and investor. I write a newsletter called Exponential View, which I hope some of you read.

I'm also on the board of the Ada Lovelace Foundation, which is an independent research group looking at data ethics, and a member of the Global

Futures Council on the Digital Economy at the World Economic Forum, and for my since spent three years on the Consumer Board at

Offcom, the Telecoms regulator. Dick I.

Hi, I'm an AI professor.

This is my 35th year in the field I think and my third AI hype

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