Hey, welcome in. This is all ball the all basketball podcast on the herd podcast network and man. This is a good one. How do I know? Well, I just know. I have two guests for you on this version of all ball. One is Adam Zagoria. He if you know anything about hopes you know Zags has his own blog. And I think he does an amazing job.

You can see him on SNY TV. You're ready for work in the New York Times where he has his own blog. He covers high school high school recruiting college pro like he's a baseball guy. So I think you're like some of the Q&A, including his thoughts on on UCLA basketball. I think my thoughts in a second.

And then Rusty LaRou is my kind of featured long form interview guest on this version of all ball. Rusty was a great player, but more than anything, maybe the greatest modern day ACC athlete ever. And by that, I mean, Charlie were played football in basketball at Florida State and won the high school trophy. So he was more decorated and obviously as a football player more impactful.

You would think. And then of course, Charlie were played more in the NBA than Rusty LaRou. Rusty also played baseball and Rusty set a bunch of NCAA records as a quarterback at Wake Forest. So he played in the NBA with the bulls was part of Michael Jordan's last championship team played obviously with Tim Duncan, Randolph, children's played for Dave Odom, coached with two different regimes, Dino Gaudio and Jeff Bazzellic at his all mod.

And then had the worst possible tragedy you can have as a parent, happened him when his son Riley tragically died at just 19 years old. We're going to get to all of it with Rusty upcoming.

So sit back, relax. And when you get down with this podcast, make sure you know, I downloaded, you subscribed and you rated, but send it to a friend like you're going to.

This is, I love doing this. I love that you've spent some time because in you know, already get a podcast, you got to spend a little bit of time searching out. And once you do, it's going to be a little bit of investment. So sit back relax. I think you'll enjoy this one.

A couple of notes. One, you could always listen to the dog Gottlieb show. That is three to six Eastern time 12 to three Pacific on Fox Sports radio.

Any of our hundreds of affiliates were also on serious XM on XM. It's 203 series is 217. That's three to six Eastern time 12 to three Pacific or just go to Fox Sports Radio dot com.

And you can find a local affiliate or download the I heart radio app. So there's how you can get me and I'll put this out of my Twitter page as well.

I had a Philip Lindsay interview that I think you're going to love. If you like great personal stories, you like to Philip Lindsay, who's a pro-bola as an undrafted rookie running back.

First ever undrafted rookie running back to be a pro-bola in pro-bola history. Anyway, that aside, let me get to a couple of college basketball topics that I have one NBA thought for you.

The college basketball topics, let's start with UCLA UCLA's basketball job is open. And one of the things that I've learned steadily as things have gone on part of it is you establish relationships. I've covered Steve Alfred.

He and I had butted heads when he was at Iowa. I covered him when he's in New Mexico, including their their upset loss to Harvard. I thought he did a great job in New Mexico.

I thought it was a little bit of a weird hire at UCLA, but I thought, all right, maybe it could work. And whether it was not having Craig Neal noodles on his staff, whether it's the fact that he never really fit into L.A. Hoops.

I actually thought they were better coached offensively and at times when he was at New Mexico, like I don't think he's a bad coach. And I think he's a very good coach.

But some of it is the college game has evolved some. And so some of his styles maybe didn't work as much. I don't know. But for whatever reason, it just didn't work at UCLA.

I don't like firing coaches mid season, but the team had had seemed to quit on him. And now UCLA has a chance to win a lot of games. A lot of games this year because Pacto is not great. And though they have young players, they have young talented players.

And I think it's going to be faster to see how they finished the year. Now I'm not going to sit here and profess to know what Dan Guerrero is thinking or tell you specifically what Dan Guerrero should do.

But I will tell you that I feel like I know more about UCLA basketball than most anybody who covers it on a national level outside. Obviously Steve Lavender, I work with a Fox Steve was the head coach of UCLA. So even more so than Sean Farnham.

I like Farnham a lot. We'll have him on the podcast. Farny played at UCLA. He started to walk on became a team captain of scholarship player later on his career. And Farny lives in LA and knows the UCLA posse pretty well. But growing up in Northern California, he didn't know it like I know it.

My people who know me, my dad was a former college coach. And we were extremely close to the hazards. Whether it was two to hazard, this Rashid hazard who's down assistant, the NBA or as a little hazard that's Doc is older brother, who's a great music producer.

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