This is an ABC podcast.

Okay, you can tell me.

I promise I won't tell anyone, but I want to know, what's the juiciest morsel of gossip you've ever heard?

The juiciest piece of gossip that I've ever heard probably comes from the workplace.

A friend of a friend was dating someone quite well known, I want to say.

It's a secret relationship between a boss and their junior.

But there were so many people involved, so many secrets that were intertwined in it. So every time I got like a little morsel of it, it was like feeding my soul.

Love it. Love the Goths.

And you probably do too, because most of us get a kick out of learning information, we should not be privy to.

We're social creatures. We spend a lot of our time in the social world. And gossip allows us to kind of

keep track of what's going on in that social world. Like gossip is something that's been around

since the beginning of time, I think. Like everyone gossips in some way, whether it's about

celebrities or people at their work. This is Megan Pistetto, and she loves gossip so much, she's made it her job.

I'm the host of The So Dramatic Podcast.

She's a reality TV gossip podcast.

Her show is part of a constellation of similar pods and social media accounts peddling

celebrity gossip.

Des Moire, the Instagram account, is my particular obsession.

But a part of me has always wondered why I, we, people, care about gossip related to celebrities.

People will never meet.

You can understand the appeal of information related to people you know, but celebrities?

Anyways, we'll get into that, but what really interests me is how our love of gossip combines

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