Gordon Wood on Friends Divided
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 21 November 2017
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
The relationship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams largely shaped the course of the newly-formed United States of America. Historian Gordon Wood examined this relationship and its effect on America’s future in his new book “Friends Divided: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson." Last week, Benjamin Wittes interviewed Wood on his book to discuss the friendship and disagreements between Jefferson and Adams, America’s perilous position in the 1790s, and the ways in which the Founding Fathers forged the country’s national security policy.
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| 0:29.0 | Well, we're not in the 1790s. |
| 0:35.0 | That was a very different era. |
| 0:37.0 | Look, the country was only, what? |
| 0:39.0 | As a nation under the Constitution, we're four or five years, ten years old. |
| 0:45.0 | And who knew how long it would last? |
| 0:47.0 | It was fragile. |
| 0:48.0 | We were frightened that the whole thing might collapse. |
| 0:51.0 | I don't think anyone believes today that the United States is going to collapse. |
| 0:56.0 | We're passionate. |
| 0:58.0 | We hate, there's hatred between the parties. |
| 1:01.0 | There's no doubt of it. |
| 1:02.0 | And we're letting bipartisanship fall apart. |
| 1:06.0 | That's not just a function of the Trump administration. |
| 1:10.0 | I think it's developing over a number of years, decades. |
| 1:15.0 | But I think we're in a much more solid position. |
| 1:20.0 | We have these 200-plus years of history behind us now. |
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