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The Playbook Podcast

GOP Senator Tillis is done mincing words | "The Conversation"

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

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3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Senator Thom Tillis calls for the resignation of Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller in a forthright interview with Dasha Burns for “The Conversation.” The North Carolina Republican made his comments after the shootings of two citizens by ICE agents in Minneapolis earlier this year. In a wide-ranging discussion, Tillis talked about tariffs, his hopes for President Trump and his worries for the future of the Republican Party.

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0:00.0

I'm about having Republicans in majorities, and we are teeing ourselves up for a disastrous electoral outcome this November.

0:12.2

Hello, hello, and welcome to The Conversation.

0:15.2

I'm Dasha Burns, Politico's White House Bureau Chief, and every week on this show, I invite one of the most compelling

0:20.9

and sometimes unexpected power players in Washington and beyond in for a chat to find out how

0:27.2

they're navigating and shaping this incredible era of American politics. This week, I sat down with

0:34.8

Republican Senator from North Carolina, Tom Tillis, and he did not mince words.

0:40.1

Tillis is in a vocal minority of Senate Republicans who are criticizing the Trump administration

0:44.9

for its handling of the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Preti by federal agents in Minneapolis.

0:51.0

In the wake of this incident, Tillis is calling for DHS secretary Christy

0:54.9

Nome to be fired. And he told me that he thinks White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller

1:00.1

is, quote, equally incompetent. Now, while he's got strong words for Trump and his allies,

1:05.2

Tillis' bigger concern is how these events reflect on the Republican Party in the long term

1:10.3

and what that means for

1:11.6

the midterms. And meanwhile, Trump is weighing his options for Fed Chair nominee and the administration

1:17.2

is still eyeing Greenland. So Tillis and I covered a lot of ground. Here's my conversation with

1:23.1

Senator Tom Tillis. Senator Tom Tillis, thank you so much for joining the conversation.

1:30.4

My pleasure.

1:31.4

First, I got to ask, how are you faring with the weather this week?

1:35.3

I think it's one of the top things on the minds of everyone here in Washington.

1:39.2

Well, you know, I was just talking with some of my staff about the people in Western North Carolina,

1:45.5

you know, they're still digging themselves out of a deep pole and out of a Haleen.

1:49.4

And now we've had the rain and the ice adding to that.

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