We are now live on the Conversations that Matter Podcast for a Saturday show.

It is a beautiful Saturday, kind of a lazy Saturday afternoon here and hope you're having a good time doing whatever you're

doing this weekend. I know many of you will probably be listening at different times

in the weekend. Maybe you'll be listening even on Monday of next week but I didn't get to do one yesterday because I was in New Jersey

for the majority of the day at a doctor's appointment and it was just too much when I got

home and so today I thought we would take some time do a podcast.

If there's any questions please feel free to put them in the live chat.

I don't have this particular podcast and actually don't think I've had any this week open for the patrons to

call in which is normally a feature that I like to include. It's just been a

busy week and I don't I need to manage my time with the podcast and make them a little shorter like at least make sure they're under an hour so

so this won't be a very long podcast I just want to share a few clips I'm'm going to dabble in some politics, some national politics here and don't expect that I'm going to do that an awful lot and I feel like I need to justify why I'm going to do it just because after 2020, what's the point John why even bothered to follow these things and they're going to be discussed either way they're going to be

Even if you're a pastor and people in your church are going to be discussing this and wondering what's the right option for them as Christians for them as

Citizens of the country and the region and the town and wherever you live

What's the best approach?

And it's becoming a more complicated and difficult question, I think.

It used to be a little more simple in some ways.

In some ways, it still is simple when you get to the general election when you have the Democrats going so farther and farther and farther left and it's just an obvious

You can't vote for them once they reach those levels.

I was talking to someone actually earlier this week about this and I said look I think

there are some probably regions of like rural West Virginia or somewhere where there still might be some like pro-life

Democrat candidates and so forth but once you get to the national spotlight those people are

weeded out you just don't have it anymore. It's a thing of the past. And it's just

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