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Woman's Hour

Goop Lab and the psychology of wellness; Tolson judgement; French #MeToo; Emma Jane Unsworth

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Last Friday, Gwyneth Paltrow launched her new TV series ‘Goop Lab’ on Netflix. It explores everything from reducing your biological age to having the best female orgasms and healing yourself with energy. But where’s the line between fact and fiction when it comes to wellness? What draws people in to trying the vast and bizarre range of creams and contraptions on offer? And what is it about our psychology that means it rarely matters whether the claims are backed up by science? Jane is joined by cognitive neuroscientist Prof Tali Sharot, consultant dermatologist Dr Anjali Mahto and self-confessed beauty product obsessive, Ree.

In France there’s a debate going on about very young people having sexual relationships with older, more powerful men: something that used to be deemed acceptable in some intellectual circles. It’s because a woman called Vanessa Springora – a leading French publisher – makes allegations in a book which came out this month, that she was groomed when she was 14 by a much admired author who was 50. Anne-Elisabeth Moutet a French journalist, explains what’s happened, why it’s significant and how it's not acceptable anymore.

Last week a written judgement was published in the family division of the High Court. Ms Justice Russell ruled in favour of a woman seeking a fresh hearing in the family courts. Her child custody case had originally been handled by a senior judge, Judge Tolson. In the course of his fact finding he ruled that the woman had not been raped by her former partner because she had “taken no physical steps” to stop him. The appeal judgement criticised him for his outdated ideas of what constitutes consent. It also recommended that family court judges who regularly deal with allegations of sexual assault and domestic violence should be required to undergo training to the same level as judges trying these charges in criminal courts. Jane discusses the significance of this judgement and what needs to happen next with Jenny Beck, Director of Beck Fitzgerald solicitors, a specialist family law firm and Louise Tickle, a journalist who specialises in social affairs and family law

Jane talks to the award winning novelist and screen writer Emma Jane Unsworth about her new novel 'Adults' – about friendship, family, love and what it means to be an adult.

Presenter - Jane Garvey Producer - Anna Lacey Guest - Tali Sharot Guest - Anjali Mahto Guest - Anne-Marie Lodge Guest - Jenny Beck Guest - Louise Tickle Guest - Emma Jane Unsworth Guest - Anne-Elizabeth Moutet

Transcript

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Choosing what to watch night after night the flicking through the endless

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searching is a nightmare we want to help you on our brand new podcast off the

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Load to games, loads of fun, loads of screaming.

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Lovely. Off the telly with me Joanna Paige.

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And me, Natalie Cassidy, so your evenings can be a little less

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searching and a lot more auction listen on BBC Sounds.

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BBC Sounds music radio podcasts.

0:34.4

This is the Woman's Our Podcast.

0:36.6

Today we'll discuss the judge in the family court who doesn't really know

0:41.0

what consent means. He was told he had outdated ideas about

0:45.5

consent. We'll discuss that man on the program today. Emma Jane Unsworth's new novel

0:50.8

Adults is out. We'll talk to Emma Jane on the program.

0:54.0

Have you been seduced by Gwyneth Paltrow's World of Goop? How about a cold water plunge?

0:59.0

Right now, or maybe a jade egg, sunny side up, or somewhere else. You never know. we'll start with that today and

1:04.8

we'll also discuss the fact that France is wrestling with its own me too

1:09.0

literary scandal that's a little bit later in the program now Now, you may well be aware that last Friday,

1:15.0

Gwyneth Pottro launched her TV series Goop Lab on Netflix.

1:19.0

Now, this series explores everything,

1:21.0

from apparently being able to reduce your biological age to having

1:24.7

the best orgasms and healing yourself with energy.

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