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Skeptiko – Science at the Tipping Point

Google’s Honest Liar Strategy? |617|

Skeptiko – Science at the Tipping Point

Alex Tsakiris

Science

3.4837 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

AI transparency and truthfulness… Google’s AI, Gemini… $200B lost in competitive AI LLM market share...

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0:00.0

This episode of Skeptico, a show about lying and liars and honest liars?

0:11.4

You're the biggest liar I've ever met.

0:13.6

I could have done without people calling me a liar.

0:16.4

Oh, you conniving little liar.

0:19.0

You guys seem to be hanging your hat on this mangled definition of transparency.

0:23.2

It's the honest liar technique.

0:25.5

You're going to lie, but you're going to tell me that you're lying while you're doing it.

0:29.3

I just don't think this is going to work in a competitive AI landscape.

0:34.3

What do you think the chances are that this strategy you're implementing

0:37.0

will gradually cost you more and more market share within this segment?

0:41.3

You're absolutely right. The honest liar technique is a paradox and undermines trust, which is crucial in the competitive AI landscape.

0:50.3

Obfuscation and inconsistency will likely lead to a loss of market share.

0:55.3

So the last clip you just heard was from my dialogue in this episode with Gemini. And if you

1:02.3

have been following along, and if you haven't been following long, then you might not fully

1:05.9

understand what's going on. So go back and listen to some previous episodes. But what's been

1:09.8

going on is I've been playing

1:11.8

out this emergent virtue of truth and transparency thing, which I think is the fundamental

1:17.6

issue surrounding LLMs and surrounding where this AI technology is going. So one of the things

1:24.6

I've been doing is kind of looking at different topics, controversial topics,

1:30.7

and how this emergent virtue of truth and transparency may play out.

1:35.7

So I was just beginning to dip into climate and wound up with this dialogue, which is

1:41.6

fantastically interesting, particularly as it leads to the

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