Google DeepMind CTO: Advancing AI Frontier, New Reasoning Methods, Video Generation’s Potential

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Koray Kavukcuoglu is the Chief Technology Officer of Google DeepMind. Kavukcuoglu joins Big Technology to discuss how his team is pushing the frontier of AI research inside Google as the company's Google IO developer event gets underway. Tune in to hear Kavukcuoglu break down the value of brute scale versus novel techniques and how the new inference-time “DeepThink” mode could supercharge reasoning. We also cover Veo 3’s sound-synced video generation, the open-source-versus-proprietary debate, and what a ten-percent jump in model quality might unlock for users everywhere.

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0:00.0	What's going on in the heart of Google's AI research operation? We'll find out with Google DeepMind's
0:05.2	chief technology officer right after this.
0:11.4	Hey you, I'm Andrew Seaman. Do you want a new job? Or do you want to move forward in your career?
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0:39.4	We'll navigate career pivots.
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0:51.2	Bookin a Big Technology podcast, a show for cool-headed and nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond.
0:58.1	We have a great show for you today, a bonus show just as Google's I-O-News hits the wire.
1:03.8	We have so much to talk about, including what's going on with the company, what it's announced today,
1:09.4	but also what is happening in the research
1:12.0	effort underlying it all. And we have a great guest for you. Joining us today is Corai Kavukcholu.
1:18.8	He is the chief technology officer of DeepMind. We're going to speak with Khorai today.
1:23.3	And then tomorrow, you'll hear from DeepMind CEO Demis Havas. Cori, great to see you.
1:27.9	Welcome to the show.
1:29.1	Thank you very much.
1:30.3	Folks, by the way, if you're watching on video,
1:32.5	Korai and I are in two separate conference rooms
1:35.0	in Google's, I don't know, it's a pretty cool new building that they have.
1:39.0	It's called, what, gradient wave or something?
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