Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran, using a tape echo machine that literally

uses magnetic tape from 3M, or else a scrappy upstart, using a tape echo plugin where you just

type in numerical values for timing and decay. This is your show, because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks

most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the second Friday of January 2022, and I thank you for joining us.

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