you know, so many parents talk about be close with your sibling, be close with your sister,

your brothers, or, you know, family's really important. And I feel like the reason that it's worked

out so well with the four of us is because my mom really led by example. Then that makes sense.

Like she, she totally walked the walk when it came to talking about the importance of family.

Drop it like a hot.

Drop like it's hot.

Natalie, what do I do?

I hope it's giddy, giddy.

Well, first of all, welcome you guys because I die.

We got an email and they're like, Catherine Schwarzenegger is going to come on your podcast. I'm like, what? And we're so happy to have you here in LA. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

I have to also say that all of my girlfriends, my like mom friends constantly are sending me

your guys post. And then I told them that I'm coming on this podcast. And they were like, can we get a drink with them after? Can we come too? I'm like, no, no, no, no. Like major, major starstruck moment for all of my friends. It's a big deal. That's really so sweet. Ever since you walked in here, you have such like a calm way about you. Are you always like that? No, I've been up all night. Oh, so you're half asleep. I'm not operating at like my normal energy right now. I'm like four coffees in. No, it's very relaxing to be around. But I can also imagine being like you just told us that you're the oldest of four kids. Yeah. You kind of have to keep your shit together when there's a bunch of little people around. Yeah.

Always happens. Imagine being like you just told us that you're the oldest of four kids. Yeah. You kind of have to keep your shit together when there's a bunch of little people around.

Yeah.

Always have to like, you know, wrangle in the crowd and the people.

Yes. Keep everybody together.

Do both kids wake up at nighttime right now?

No, my eight month old is teething.

Oh.

So her, it's, it's so sad.

Like her little, you know, the little buds at the top, they're kind of, you know, in flame. Like they're going to pop in any moment. And she's also starting to crawl. So I feel like it's one of those like development moments of there's so much going on that they can't sleep. Yep. And then my older one, my two and a half year old, she just last night happened to have some sort of a nightmare where she woke up because she sleeps now, which I never thought that I would let her do. She sleeps with a bunch of baby dolls. Okay. And she sometimes will wake up in the middle of the night and take a head count.

Oh, yes. No. Yeah. Yes. Like roll call. Roll call. She's like, and raise your hand. If you're here and someone's missing, we have a problem. Yeah. Our kids have what we call them lovies. They're these like angel dears. So they've got the head and then they got a little blanket body. and they were only supposed to have Like you're supposed to get a pair and a spare So you've got like extra She found all the spares Yes So before like T.J goes through And Chloe has 17 Yeah TJ always can't go to sleep Unless he counts He counts that there's three grays And we only have five Three grays and two whatever the other one is. And then in the night, if you can't find one, he comes and asks us, but he shares room with his brother and we don't want to wake them up. But I can't find it all your pillows and blankets. We call them guggies now. I can't find all your guggies and nine. It's four not enough. Yeah. No, trust me. I mean, she will literally wake up and she'll say, oh, no. Oh, oh, no.

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