Good COP, Bad COP?

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.1 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Leaders from nearly 200 countries agreed to transition away from fossil fuels at this year’s annual U.N. climate summit, known as COP28. But the agreement is nonbinding, and questions on how to finance such a transition remain unanswered. This week’s guest, however, might have those answers—and it all comes down to public-private partnerships, the reform of multilateral lenders, and better political will. Rajiv Shah served as administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development under President Barack Obama. He is now president of the Rockefeller Foundation and the author of Big Bets: How Large-Scale Change Really Happens. Suggested reading: Rajiv Shah: Big Bets: How Large-Scale Change Really Happens Christina Lu: Good COP or Bad COP? Lili Pike: The Climate Envoys Who Could Shayak Sengupta and Abhinav Jindal: Are Global Climate Partnerships Fit for Purpose? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hi, this is Ava from Vanta. In today's digital world, compliance regulations are changing constantly,
0:07.1	and earning customer trust has never mattered more. Vanta helps companies get compliant fast and stay
0:12.9	secure, with the most advanced AI automation and continuous monitoring out there. So whether
0:17.8	you're a startup going for your first SO stock two or ISO-27,001,
0:21.5	or a growing enterprise managing vendor risk, Banta makes it quick, easy and scalable.
0:26.4	And I'm not to say that because I work here. Get started today at banta.com.
0:31.3	Abby's just woken up. It's 731 and she's forgotten to ring the doctor. There's no point
0:36.2	ringing now. She needs to get to work. But she's not worried. She's got an HSBC Premier bank account with access to digital GP appointments plus two second opinions a year should she need them. Everything's Premier when your bank account is. Search HSBC Premier. HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. The doctor will see you now.
0:55.3	Apply with £100,000 annual income or £100,000 savings or investments with HSBC UK or Premier Status Abroad.
1:01.8	Hi, I'm Ravi Agruwal, Foreign Policy's Editor-in-Chief.
1:06.0	This is FP Live.
1:10.3	Welcome to the show. The UN's annual climate summit, COP28, came to a close in
1:16.6	Dubai this week with what some have called a breakthrough. For the first time ever, countries
1:22.4	agreed to transition away from fossil fuels. They also agreed to curb methane emissions and triple renewable
1:29.9	energy capacity in the next seven years. It has taken 28 years for COP to put down the F words on paper.
1:39.7	That's fossil and fuel. But while it's good, they've agreed to transition away from coal, oil, and gas,
1:46.6	it is long overdue and it's not binding. In other words, there is no way to force anyone to
1:53.9	comply with anything that was agreed this week at COP. So was the Dubai cop a failure or a success? It depends on who you ask. I spoke to someone
2:06.0	this week who framed it a bit differently. Ultimately, it's all about the money. Many of the
2:11.8	technologies to create clean electricity already exist, whether it's solar or wind. The problem, as always, is how to pay for it,
2:20.9	especially if you're in the developing world where many countries are already burdened
2:25.5	with high interest payments on their existing debt. And those ones, they struggle to raise
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Foreign Policy, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Foreign Policy and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.