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The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Good Communication Is Overrated—Try This Instead

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Civility Media

Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Relationships

55.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

I don’t want what sounds nice—I want what’s real. This episode is about stripping away the polish in conversations and showing up with integrity and authenticity. I break down why perfection actually hurts communication, how authenticity and integrity differ, and why your presence will always matter more than your technique. If you’ve ever caught yourself performing instead of connecting, this episode will help you return to what’s true. Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook  Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Pique. Head to https://PiqueLife.com/jefferson for 20% off. BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Why are businesses like HelloVet choosing Apple products and services?

0:05.0

So we started the business two years ago.

0:07.0

We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.

0:12.0

But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.

0:18.0

Find out how Mac can help you run and grow your business at apple.com forward slash hello vet.

0:26.1

Quick announcement.

0:27.7

The Next Conversation Workbook is now available on sale for pre-order.

0:32.5

As many of you know, my book The Next Conversation, came out this year, and it was chosen as best books of 2025 for not

0:39.0

only Barnes & Noble, but also Amazon. Well, this workbook is something that I've been working on

0:44.7

behind the scenes to make sure that it's packed full of practical exercises and prompts to make

0:49.7

sure that you argue less and talk more. You can get it wherever books are sold. And for you listeners,

0:55.3

yes, all the links are down there in the show notes. And now, enjoy the episode.

1:00.5

I don't want what sounds nice. I want what's real. Have you ever felt that before?

1:08.1

In conversation where what you're grasping for is just the realness

1:12.8

of it rather than what sounds nice what looks nice the the layer of shine the polish i don't want

1:19.7

the icing i want you to cut to the chase you felt that in today's conversation we're going to be

1:25.3

talking all about integrity authenticity and how to show up better in conversations.

1:31.0

Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast, where I'm on a mission to make your next conversation, the one that changes everything.

1:36.7

If you enjoy listening to episodes like this that want to improve your communication, like somebody who can't say the word communication, I'm going to ask that you find wherever you're listening the word subscribe and click it. And it is my promise to you that in exchange I will make you a better communicator. Thank you very much. This episode is brought to you by Cozy Earth. I love Cozy Earth, and they've been a sponsor of this podcast for a long time now because I use their products and they work. When I'm looking for premium quality products for things

2:06.1

that for me are adulting, I'm talking about bed sheets, I'm talking about bath towels, I'm talking

2:13.2

about clothes, from coats to shoes, the ho the sweatpants all of that that's what I

2:20.5

like that's the stage of life that I'm in and I bet that's a stage of life you're in

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