Welcome to the win make give podcast chat I'm here joined by my friend Bob Stewart Bob.

How are you doing today, buddy?

Chad, I'm good and you know, the audience can't, they can't see us, right?

And with this podcast, they're listening to this on whatever podcast, you know, device

they use, but we can see each other.

And so when we normally record these, we're in, uh, when, when we're in a room, yeah,

we're in a room.

So it's you and me and Ben and, and, and then Dave, well, then our audio guy will be in

the room with us as well.

And we refer to him all the time.

But when we do interviews most often, especially, you know, the last year and a half with

COVID, right?

We can't, we can't get face to face or travel as much as we used to.

We do these interviews on, um, or, we can see each other and, uh, you brought another

one of these guys to the table that has like the coolest backgrounds.

And if this guy's, if, if he's half as good as his background is today, Chad, we're in

for a real special treat, um, so I'm, I'm good.

I've got a little background envy, but, uh, I'm good.

Yeah.

And the reason for it, audience, just so you know, is, and, and we'll meet our, our guest

in a moment here, Chris and we'll, we'll end up covering some of the stuff in his background.

I can obviously see his book.

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