Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast. I'm Jordan McGillis, economics editor of City Journal.

Joining me on the show today is Nolan Gray. Nolan is the research director for California YIMBY, the group that advocates for

regulatory reforms to make it easier to build housing in the Golden State. Nolan formerly was a New York

city planner, but he now lives in Los Angeles, And we're going to talk about that city today.

Nolan, thanks for joining me.

Jordan, it's a pleasure.

Nice to be chatting.

All right.

So it is now March, as we record.

We are in spring training.

The baseball season is starting in about a month.

And we want to talk about the Los Angeles Dodgers and Dodgers Stadium.

Now, the biggest offseason acquisition for the Dodgers, uh, you may be thinking Shohei Otani, but we're going to talk about something that's a bit bigger. The gondola. Nolan, what's the rundown on the Dodgers Stadium gondola? Yeah, absolutely. I think most Dodgers fans are probably paying attention to the fact that Otani just got married or announced that he was married. Kind of an odd story. But for us, you know, urbanists and city thinkers, an exciting story is this gondola project. So as anybody who's visited Dodger Stadium, Dodger Stadium knows it's notoriously difficult to get in and out of the stadium. This is very much built in a post-war suburban era where the notion was everyone would

drive to Dodger Stadium. And it's a bit of a headache to get in and out. There's been proposals

nearly for as long as the stadium's been built to improve transit alternatives and there are

good express buses. But one idea proposed by Frank McCourt, who is a co-owner of the parking lots.

It's a long and confusing history, is a proposal to add a gondola that would connect Dodger Stadium to Union Station

by way of Chinatown. So for those who don't know, a gondola would be cars on cable cars

flying through the beautiful blue skies of Los Angeles above existing communities over

the ridgeline into the Chavez ravine where Dodger Stadium is today. In the last few weeks,

the Los Angeles Metro Board certified the environmental impact review as complete. And so the

politics around it are really starting to heat up. What's the distance that

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