Oh, hello there. Not you guys. I'm Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that

treats popular culture is the most important kind of culture. We celebrate it here. We analyze it.

We rip it apart. And in order to do that, Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against

each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win it, each guest will be called upon

to use their intelligence,

their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks that they've been saving in a field notes notebook

to earn the coveted troubled waters title, Pundit Amaritus, which will automatically give their

opinion on whether it should be called the Thunderbolts or the New Avengers or great than a

civilians.

I'm going, I'm going this week in 4D3D.

4D3D. That's 7D.

That's a lot of D.

That's too much D.

It's too much D.

It's too much D. We all watch that video, though, right?

The which?

Seven D's?

Oh.

I mean, we've all seen a video like that. Oh, I've seen at least.

Sure, sure.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guests.

Our first contestant is an actor who produces the podcast Mission Log, the Orville.

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