Goldman Sachs Sacks Gold – Ep. 143
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Peter Schiff
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🗓️ 17 February 2016
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
* The big story of the day was the pullback in the price of gold
* Gold was above $1260 last week; it pulled back a little bit on Friday, but the real damage happened overnight on Monday, while we were celebrating Presidents' Day
* At one point gold was down almost $50; trading even below $1190
* When we opened up for trading in New York, gold was back above $1210.; it tried to rally, but really couldn't, in fact the only time gold rallied today is when the Dow sold off to +50 from +150
* The stock market and the gold market are the mirror image of each other right now
* Ultimately, I do believe that stocks, gold stocks and gold will be going in the same direction because they will all respond positively to the Fed admitting that it will not raise interest rates, and in fact cut them and will launch QE4
* Now, gold is the safe haven from weak stocks, but the best environment is when the Fed steps up to save stocks, and that's when the gold trade is going to catch a bid
* But when the market closed on the highs of the day, up over 200 points, that means gold closed on the low of the day
* GLD, the ETF for gold, for today's decline, we were down $35.90
* In the spot market, we closed right about $1200 even
* A good point: look at the gold stocks, GDX, that index was down 8.65%
* In all the big gold up days, we never had a comparable up day for gold stocks
* On gold's best day, the biggest day since 2008, gold stocks were just up about 5%
* Yet on the down side, a -3% move in gold produces a -9% move in gold stocks
* Why is all the movement on the down side?
* One, there's still more fear than greed in the gold market
* This is a good sign - a bull market climbing a wall of worry
* This is just a resumption of a long-term secular market that began in 1999-2000
* Goldman Sachs rhetoric may in part be responsible for the sharp selloff
* I mention on last week's podcast that Goldman was recommending a sell on gold, that it was going back down to $1000
* On Monday, while the market was having a holiday, Goldman Sachs was out with their PR again, not only telling people to sell gold, but to short gold
* Why would Goldman Sachs be telling people to short gold?
* Why would they bother with a 20% short when there are so many stocks being killed right now that would be much better to short
* Gold will never be worthless, what if it goes up? Why risk losing all that money?
* The risk/reward isn't there
* Goldman says they don't think there will be a recession and the Fed's going to keep raising rates
* They admit there is a small chance of a recession this year: what's going to happen to gold if we go into recession?
* What happens if you have shorted gold, hoping to capture just 20%?
* The only thing that would make sense to me is that Goldman Sachs wants the price of gold to go down because they're probably already short - that's why
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| 0:00.0 | Well, the big story of the day, and in fact over the holiday when we were closed here in |
| 0:14.7 | the US, was the pullback in the price of gold. |
| 0:18.6 | Gold had gotten above 1260 on Thursday last week. |
| 0:23.0 | It pulled back a little bit on Friday, but the real damage happened overnight on Monday |
| 0:29.6 | while we were celebrating President's Day, where at one point gold was almost down about |
| 0:35.0 | 50 bucks. |
| 0:36.1 | It was trading even below 1190, I believe, on the lows. |
| 0:41.3 | When we opened up for trading here in New York, gold had pulled back, and it was back above |
| 0:46.4 | 1210. |
| 0:48.1 | It tried to rally, but really couldn't. |
| 0:50.5 | In fact, the only time that gold rallied a bit today is when the Dow sold off to only |
| 0:55.9 | up about plus 50 from up about 150, the stock market and the gold market are really the |
| 1:01.8 | mirror image of each other right now. |
| 1:04.3 | Gold tends to be trading off of stocks. |
| 1:06.8 | If stocks are going down, gold is going up, and if stocks are going up, gold is going |
| 1:10.8 | down. |
| 1:11.8 | That is the dynamic that is in play right now. |
| 1:14.3 | Although ultimately, I do believe that stocks and gold and gold stocks will be going in |
| 1:19.1 | the same direction, because they'll all be responding positively to the Fed admitting |
| 1:24.5 | that it's not going to raise interest rates, and in fact, cutting interest rates may be |
| 1:28.2 | the negative and launching QE4. |
| 1:30.9 | But right now, everybody still believes that rate hikes are coming. |
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