Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to the Find out podcast.

We got a great show for you today.

But before I

introduce our first guest, I wanted to talk a little bit about our episode from Thursday that we,

that actually it was Rich Chris and I, like it is today, because we got a few folks that

had some flight problems and a sick kiddo. We asked you if you wanted us to have Grant

Platner on the show. And many of you wrote in, which we really appreciate it, and asked you if you wanted us to have Grant Platner on the show.

And many of you wrote in, which we really appreciate it, and asked us to do that.

And so I just want to let you know that we have extended actually several invitations to the

Platner campaign to come on the show.

And so hopefully we will have some more information for you soon.

But we wanted to make sure you knew that we had listened and that he is welcome to come on the show anytime and also feel free to ask him

over social if you would like him to join as well. But today we're doing something a little bit

different. You know, we usually have guests from the political sphere, but today, because we're

talking, because we want to talk about some of the other pieces of

our work, which is also like bringing men to the left, but also helping men live fulfilling

life.

So we actually have Jordan Heller today, who was on the first season of the Golden Bachelorette so jordan thank you for joining us today

well what a great intro by the way thank you so much yeah i'm so happy to be here and love i'd love to

get a chance to talk politics at some point too but yeah i'm happy to talk about my experiences and uh

everything that associated with the show and that kind of my life as a man in my early 60s in

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