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My castaway this week is the stylist Gok Wan.

He seemed to spring perfectly created onto our television screens,

all sculptured hair, designer glasses,

and an almost architectural sense of poise.

Dispensing fashion advice and hugs in equal measure. He aims, he says, to make women

feel like women, not like turkeys. Yet, although he made his name as a stylist, his special

talent isn't, it seems, for fashion, but for gaining people's trust. He understands only too well

the emotional journey he is asking women to make.

The first person he had to transform was himself, and that's very much work in progress.

I'm still that insecure little fat boy inside, he says, who's a bit scared of people not approving of what he's doing.

So, Gokwon, you worked as a stylist for a good while before this somewhat

stellar television career took off. I wonder if you were surprised when you started working

in television at how emotional the journey is that you go on with these women. I had no idea at

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