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Curious Cases

Going Viral

Curious Cases

BBC

Technology, Science

4.84.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Cold and flu season is well and truly upon us, and whilst most of us are busy bemoaning the pesky viruses behind our sniffles and chesty coughs – one of our listeners has other ideas. Elizabeth wants to know whether we’re too hard on these oft-maligned microbes? We’ve all heard that some bacteria can be good for us, but what about viruses? Could they have a softer side too? Hannah and Dara explore the virome, from prehistoric placental proteins to ultra-precise disease fighting phages to find out if Viruses truly are the villains of the microscopic world or whether they just need a better PR team.

Contributors Jonathan Ball - Professor of Molecular Virology at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine. Martha Clokie - Professor of Microbiology at the University of Leicester. Marylin Roosinck - Professor Emeritus of Microbiology at Penn State University US.

Producer: Emily Bird Executive Producer: Sasha Feachem A BBC Studios Production

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts.

0:07.3

Hello, I'm Kimberly Wilson. I'm a psychologist, and in my new podcast, Complex, I'll be your guide

0:14.4

through all the information and misinformation that's out there about mental health.

0:19.0

I'm joined by expert guests covering topics from people

0:22.5

pleasing to perfectionism, burnout to empathy, to find tangible advice so we can understand ourselves

0:28.9

a little better. Complex with me, Kimberly Wilson. Listen on BBC Sounds. You're about to listen to a

0:37.3

brand new episode of Curious Cases.

0:39.4

Shows are going to be released weekly, wherever you get your podcast.

0:42.2

But if you're in the UK, you can listen to the latest episodes first on BBC Sounds.

0:50.0

I'm Hannah Frye.

0:51.2

And I'm Dara O'Brien.

0:52.4

And this is Curious Cases.

0:54.1

The show will we take your quirkiest questions?

0:56.1

Your crudious conundrums.

0:57.6

And then we solve them.

0:58.5

With the power of science. I mean, do we always solve them? I mean, the hit rate's pretty low. But it is with science. It is with science. One of the big problems about post-COVID, as well as all of the other massive problems.

1:14.1

Yes. One of the big problems about post-COVID as well as all of the other massive problems

1:14.1

is that I just think that viruses have ended up with quite a bad reputation, you know?

1:20.4

You think you've ended up with a bad reputation?

1:21.8

I'm literally standing in front of you here with a tissue that says virus is bad.

1:26.4

But I put a lot of money into the tissue, into the virus is bad tissue. Are you telling me it's a grey area? I think you need to get a permanent marker and pop a little question mark on there at least. Okay, yeah. See, this is the thing you see. I'm very settled in my virus's bad stance. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to be, you know,

1:45.0

it'd be embarrassing.

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