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Overheard at National Geographic

Going Undercover to Save Manta Rays

Overheard at National Geographic

National Geographic

Science, Society & Culture

4.510.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

After wildlife filmmaker Malaika Vaz stumbled upon manta ray poaching near her home in India, she disguised herself as a fish trader to find out who was behind the plot—a dicey proposition as she pursues traffickers in India, China, and Nepal. For more information on this episode, visit natgeo.com/overheard. Want more? Check out Malaika and Nitye’s production company, Untamed Planet. There, you can see films about big cats, pandemics, and, of course, manta ray trafficking. Also explore: Curious how these animals stole Malaika’s heart? Take a look at Nat Geo Wild’s The Social Lives of Manta Rays. For subscribers: Believe it or not, manta rays have their own distinct social circles. Learn more in our article about manta ray friendships. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

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0:14.0

Malikavaz is a woman in our early 20s and she is very far from home.

0:18.8

Don't ask where.

0:20.4

I'm going to try to say this without saying like country names because I feel like that could expose me to danger.

0:25.2

We can tell you it's early 2018 and she's in a major city in East Asia.

0:30.5

You can hear the sounds of the city all around you, there's traffic, there's the hustle and bustle of a big boomer industrial city.

0:38.8

More specifically, she's with the filmmaker in a seafood market inside a shopping mall.

0:44.0

People around her are laughing and talking.

0:46.8

There was just a ton of different kinds of stores with everything from shock, fin to ivory, to manteries, to pangolin skills, like literally every imaginable kind of wildlife.

0:58.4

But Malik is not there to shop, she's there to investigate seafood smuggling.

1:03.6

She talks with the seafood trader, a young woman there with her child.

1:08.0

Then Malikavaz happens to turn around.

1:11.6

She notices two people in police uniforms with walkie talkies, they're watching her.

1:17.6

I'd seen them a couple of times that day but that's when I realized that we would be watched.

1:21.2

Malik and the filmmaker immediately start pretending to be tourists.

1:24.8

To be like, hey let's take a selfie together, let's like, you know, just like huddle together and take pictures.

1:30.0

And get out and buy this beautiful shawl that you have on your store front, right?

1:34.0

So we have to really, really make that shift super fast.

1:37.6

Wait, so who, who could they have been? Like who, who were you afraid these uniform people were?

1:44.8

They were from the government, that's the uniform.

1:47.8

Why would a government not want you to be doing that?

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