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Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

Going, Going, GONE – the Alien Exodus

Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Heritage Foundation

Government

4.5527 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Guest is immigration expert Dr. Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, to discuss his recent report showing that since January, the alien population in the U.S. has dropped by 2.2 million, including 1.6 million illegal aliens.

Classic movie review of the 1948 film noir, “To the Ends of the Earth,” about a federal operation to smash a smuggling ring.

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0:00.0

Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself.

0:04.8

This is Hans von Spikovsky, and you're listening to Case in Point,

0:11.5

and the title of our episode today is Going, Going Gone, the Alien Exodus.

0:17.7

As all of you have seen and read in the news and social media, the Trump administration

0:23.9

completely reversed the prior policy of the Biden administration, which was basically

0:29.1

non-enforcement, and has been working intently to both secure the border and remove illegal aliens

0:35.4

present in the country. The number of aliens that came

0:38.5

in during the Biden administration is estimated to be between 8 and 10 million, adding to the very

0:45.4

large number of illegal aliens who were already in the country. Despite the judicial warfare

0:53.1

being waged by rogue federal judges against that immigration enforcement,

0:58.3

the efforts seem to have been very successful with large numbers of illegal aliens,

1:02.7

particularly those with criminal records being found, detained, and deported.

1:08.0

But, of course, the number of illegal aliens in the country is very large

1:12.6

beyond the resources of the Department of Homeland Security. That's why I actually published

1:19.3

an article last year saying it was going to take an all government effort in this area because

1:25.0

part of the issue is to try to make it as difficult as possible for aliens to work, find housing, travel, in order to induce self-deportation.

1:37.3

That appears to be happening, and here to talk about it, is Stephen Camerata, Steven's Director of Research at the Center for Immigration Studies and, frankly, one of the

1:48.6

country's leading experts on immigration.

1:51.7

If you want accurate analysis of the numbers and statistics, it's Stevens' research,

1:57.3

you should go to.

1:58.4

I should say Dr. Stephen Camerataica. He's got a PhD from the University

2:03.4

of Virginia in public policy analysis and got his master's degree from the University of Pennsylvania.

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