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is what it's all about welcome to ke Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I'm Kelly

Corrigan and today I'm wondering about how we reel in our big, fat, dumb egos so that we

might refocus our considerable capacities on the bigger picture. What can we do to feel better and do better and be better in a modern world and a modern

economy that is programmed to make us think endlessly about ourselves, our needs,

and our wants?

My thought partner is an actor you will know from the office and six feet under.

He's been doing a podcast with Reza Aslan for a couple years. He is also the author of a new book. It's called Soul Boom,

Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution. So join me for a conversation with Rain Wilson.

Welcome back to Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

I'm Kelly Corrigan.

Today we end a three-part mini-series we've been calling after much study, conversations with people who spend most of their lives learning.

Today's guest is the deeply thoughtful, curious, very funny guy. I now consider a friend, Rain Wilson. You know him. He was Dwight Shrewt on the office. He was also my favorite, Arthur, and six feet under. He's the co-founder of something called Soul Pancake, which is a

digital media company encouraging open-hearted dialogue. He is endlessly interested in what it means to be

human and has been stewing on a set of ideas for a society

that is aching for healing. He recently put them all together in a new book called Soul Boom,

Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution. We met up at the Aspen Ideas Festival this summer before the

actor's strike.

So I want to put three quotes in front of you from your book.

Uh-oh.

The first is, if you are so angry, so depressed, so sore that your spirit cannot find

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