Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

I'm Kelly Corrigan and today I'm wondering how spirituality factors into well-being.

Like do people who have an active faith or a faith community,

experience better well-being over the course of their lifetimes?

And if so, do we know why? My thought partner is clinical

psychologist and psychology professor Alexis Abernathy and she studies the

intersection of spirituality and health.

I also asked two friends of the show, previous guest W. Kamal Bell and Dr. B.J. Miller

to join me in this conversation.

B.J. Miller is a palliative care doc and an author,

W. Kamal Bell is a writer and a producer and a comedian.

And they both really helped unpack this very complex set of questions. So join us for Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I'm Kelly Corrigan and today we are talking about

the intersection of spirituality and well-being. My conversation partners on the subject are Dr. Alexis Abernathy W

Camau Bell and Dr. B.J Miller. Alexis Abernathy is a real expert in this

space. She's the author of a book called Worship that Changes Lives.

She's the chief academic officer and a professor of psychology

at the Fuller Theological Seminary,

where she studies the intersection of spirituality and health.

Dr. B.J. Miller is a palliative care doc.

He's the co-founder of Metal Health and the author of The Beginners Guide to the End. He's also a friend to me and the author of the beginner's guide to the end.

He's also a friend to me and this show as a previous guest.

And then finally, W. Kamau Bell, who was my neighbor when I lived in the Bay Area.

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