Going Deep on How Things Get Better with Nicholas Kristof

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.8 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Nicholas Kristof is one of America's most experienced, prolific, awarded and grounded journalists. I read him often when I want a point of view that comes with 35 years in the field and his signature big picture optimism. This is a conversation to remind us all how exactly change happens.

Special thanks to the Aspen Ideas Festival for putting me on stage with Nick and for generally being such a great partner this year and last as we try to stay up to date on the best thinking.

*Please note that this conversation references substance abuse, sexual abuse, and suicide.

(Here's the link to Kelly's TED talk on the occasional need for extraordinary bravery in family life -- please post or share with every brave and loving person you admire.)

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0:00.0	Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders.
0:07.1	I'm Kelly Corrigan and today I'm wondering about the courage that's required
0:12.1	at multiple levels across society to make America
0:16.4	a great democracy that can endure.
0:20.0	My conversation partner is New York Times journalist Nicholas Christoph.
0:24.9	I happen to meet with him on stage in front of a live audience at Aspen Ideas Festival
0:30.5	two days after the first presidential debate,
0:33.5	after which you may know, Nick published an op-ed calling for Biden to step down from the race.
0:40.0	Naturally, I couldn't wait to ask him about that, but also our conversation went wider to the need for the fourth estate, what journalism can and cannot do from the sidelines, what's missing in America that makes corruption possible,
0:56.4	and why he continues to be an optimist in the face of it all.
1:01.2	So join me for a fascinating conversation with Nicholas Christoph. We'll be right
1:05.9	back with Kelly Corrigan Wonders. Female athletes have always needed grit and talent, but for decades they've also
1:21.0	needed a certificate. To prove that they were actually women
1:25.2	according to different definitions and even now they're still being checked and
1:30.4	questioned. Their story is the newest podcast series from
1:34.2	CBC and NPR's embedded. It'm Kelly Corrigan. While I was at the Aspen Ideas Festival in late June,
1:55.6	I was given the privilege of interviewing journalist Nicholas Christoph. He's an opinion columnist
2:00.8	at the New York Times where he first started as a reporter in 1984.
2:05.9	He has since won Pulitzer Prizes for his coverage of the Bloody Tiananmen Square crackdown
2:11.6	and the genocide in Darfur. He got an enormous amount of
2:16.2	attention for a searing expose he wrote in 2020 called the Children of
2:21.0	Porn Hub. I was scheduled to interview Nick on stage at Aspen Ideas just two days after the presidential debate aired.
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