I have had to preside over too many funerals this year of persons who have died from COVID-19 and I've stood over grave sites and left after performing the ceremony and I just cried bitter tears because it was just so unfair.

They did not have to die and you know I have to be honest with you I just ask God you know what's up you do

you why don't you intervene here your people who love you and serve you are dying the most from this and you you

ain't gonna show up what's up with you. This is nerdcast I'm Maya King and

so you know that may be heretical for a lot of people who may listen to this,

but I just really, I mean if Jesus can say my God, why have you forsaken me, I can say God, what the hell is going on. This is a big moment for

political leaders, community leaders, spiritual leaders. Hey Maya how you doing?

And sometimes one person embodies all three.

I'm Frederick Douglas Haynes the third.

I'm the senior pastor of Friendship West.

Friendship West Baptist Church.

That's a mega church in Dallas, Texas, and it has over 12,000 members.

I must confess that it's in my DNA, my grandfather Frederick Douglas Haynes,

senior, pastor, Third Baptist Church in San Francisco.

I wanted to talk to him because his work combines the spiritual, political, and communal.

Dr. Haynes, you've been in the ministry for four decades since 1979.

1979 and pasturing friendship west since 1983.

He's not just a staple in his community, but on a national scale.

Ahead of the Georgia runoff elections, the Black Church has been, once again,

thrust into the spotlight, both as an organizing force for voters, and a point of contention for some conservatives.

How does Dr. Haynes see the role of the Black Church in 2020?

It's social service.

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