Hey everyone, welcome to the Babylon B interview show. I'm Kyle and this is not Adam Yenser.

I'm Jared. This is Jared and we are today talking to Dr. Hugh Ross.

Being a follower of Jesus Christ, you're joining a party that's way more fun than any non-theistic party.

Get to ever think of. I'm not worried about Supermover Dennis.

Well I mean they happen every 700,000 years and the last time one happened was 700,000 years ago.

Check out his new book, Designed to the Core. Let's welcome Dr. Ross.

All right well thank you for coming in Dr. Ross. It's great to meet you. We've met a lot of your

colleagues already and we kept saying we need to get the big cheese. All right that's what they call

your Ross. They call you out. Yeah. They don't at our office. They don't have other names.

They have other names. The grand eagle. That's great. Well it's great to have you.

So how long have you been doing apologetics at this point? Well probably since I gave my life to

Christ which was she a few years ago. 1964. Yeah. So a few years ago. Oh yeah. That was a good year.

Yeah. I mean I'm a Gideon Convert so I've studied in Gideon Bible for eight decades.

Okay. And I realize if I give my life to Christ I have to commit to share what I've discovered

with other people. So that sense of apologetics was there right from the beginning. So you had

that burden right from the beginning. Right. Yeah. How has the apologetics landscape changed since

the 1960s till now? Do you find its similar arguments, similar worldviews or as the shifting?

Well the basics are similar. They've been similar for the past 2000 years.

I think the biggest shift I've seen is that particularly in my discipline of astronomy and physics

is that the evidence for a causal agent beyond the universe creating matter energy space and time

is now so rigorous and compelling. What I'm seeing from my atheist peers is they appeal to things

that we can't measure. So rather than trying to defend the atheism on what we can see and measure

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