God, 'The Current Thing,' And Apple — With Antonio Garcia Martinez

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

Technology, Religion & Spirituality, Business News, Business, Religion, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Politics, News Commentary, Government, Investing, Tech News, Social Sciences, News

4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2022

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Antonio Garcia Martinez is an early Facebook employee, author of Chaos Monkeys, former Apple engineer, and writes the Pull Request on Substack. He joins Big Technology Podcast for a wide-ranging discussion touching on what he learned about Apple's ad platform in his short tenure at the company, how he's navigated being held as a symbol for new-right politics and then pushed back on its pro-Putin narrative, what the meme about Ukraine support being "the current thing" really means, and why he's converting to Judaism if he disdains dogma.

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0:34.9	Jackson Gadsden. We're the host of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and IHart Podcasts.
0:39.7	There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
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0:56.7	Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
1:02.7	LinkedIn Presents. Hello and welcome to the big technology podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation, of the tech world and beyond.
1:27.6	Our guest today is Antonio Garcia Martinez.
1:30.1	He's the author of Chaos Monkeys, which was an NPR, best book of the year, an early Facebook
1:35.2	employee, a notoriously former Apple engineer.
1:38.8	He's currently a senior fellow at the Lincoln Network and author of Pull Request on Substack.
1:46.0	He also has a podcast by the same name. Antonio, welcome to the show. Thanks, Alex, for having me. Yeah, so I think we should start with
1:51.1	how we met because, I don't know, it was kind of an interesting interaction and it may set the stage
1:57.0	here. So I had written this story for BuzzFeed News when I was there, but how I had bought
2:01.8	an AR-15 using Facebook, which was against Facebook's policies to do a private purchase of an AR-15
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