If you let go of just the mythic version, the belief system, then you're going to have

grounds and rounds of hellacious purgatory or you're going to be cast into hell for all

eternity. And so that stops your capacity to be open and to explore other ways of looking at your

religion. I am Vision Latiani, founder of Mind Valley, the School for Human Transformation.

You're listening to the Mind Valley podcast where we'll be bringing you the greatest teachers

and thought leaders on the planet. It's got the world's most powerful ideas and personal growth

for my, body, spirit and work. I can't even do justice in introducing Ken Wilber. All I can say is

this. This man is perhaps the world's most important living philosopher. He's written 25 books

translated into 30-plus languages Bill Clinton has quoted him. Tony Robbins has spoken about his

theories on stage at major events like date with destiny. Ken Wilber has influenced more

lives in terms of how they think about the world than anyone else alive today. And that's why this

man is kind of a legend. So I've had maybe four to five hours of deep conversations with Ken Wilber

where we've explored topics that have huge meaning in the world today from education to religion

to politics. What makes Ken so interesting is his high-powered intellect. See, Ken doesn't tell you

what to think. What he shows you are frameworks for understanding the world. How do you decide

of a particular concept in a religious book? Is powerful or dangerous? How do you look at

redesigning the modern education system? How do you answer questions such as why do some great

leaders like Martin Luther King or Gandhi create so much love but also generate hate to the point

where they get assassinated? Ken Wilber gives you frameworks for understanding the world today

in different dimensions. And this is really what makes him so special in Ken's own words. He's

driving towards a genuine theory of everything that helps to enrich and deepen every feel through

an understanding of exactly how and where each one fits in relation to all others.

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