In the New Testament book of Romans chapter 8, one of my favorites, we're told there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

But that promise, can it be true even if your spouse has committed an egregious sin?

We're going to hear from a couple who walked that

journey and say, yes, I'm John Fuller, along with Greg and Aaron Smalley. They lead the marriage

team here at the ministry, and we're going to hear now from Pastor Josh Walters and his wife, Katie.

They seemed to have a strong relationship until it was revealed that she'd had an affair with one of Josh's friends.

Here's more of their compelling story with focus on the family president, Jim Daly.

You're a pastor, so you're counseling couples.

Why do you think God said this breach of confidence, this breach of trust is one reason, the reason I would let you

out of that covenant of marriage.

Even though he hates divorce.

Why do you think he says, this is one spot where you can make that decision?

It's intriguing to me because God does hate divorce.

And so it's kind of fascinating that this breach even outruns God's command to stay together.

You know, the whole act of infidelity and betrayal is a soul tie that connects you to another person. And when he

talks about this hardness of heart, it can be as if you've left the relationship. You know,

and so I just think God's grace giving allowance for that, that each person has to make their own

choice. But I think about your response to compassion when you first heard my story. And you said,

you know, I just in vulnerability

want to say, hey, Jesus still loves you. He still loves sinners. And I think about that's what

Jesus did when the adultero was thrown at his feet, is he recognized, you know, we all get lost

sometimes. Like, and he stepped in with compassion in that moment and instead

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