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I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast ministry of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh, and I have a question for you to start today's program.

Have you ever looked up at the night sky and wondered how it all got there?

Well, on today's edition of Family Talk, Dr. Dobson sits down with two distinguished scholars,

Dr. Mark Hartwig, and Dr.

William Dembski, to explore the case for intelligent design. Between them, these two men bring

decades of research in mathematics, philosophy, and science, to a question that matters deeply.

And that is, does the breathtaking complexity of our universe point to random chance or to a purposeful creator?

Here now is Dr. James Dobson to introduce today's family talk broadcast.

This is very deep and troubled water to some degree that we're waiting into today because it takes us into the highly emotional controversy regarding the origins of the universe.

It's a subject that creates great passion for people, doesn't it? Explain why.

Well, I think you have a scientific world that with the rise of modern science, maybe 300 years ago, really wanted to get rid of design. It didn't

start out quite that way, but basically the way modern science developed, there was really no

place for design to become detectable. It was particles in motion according to blind natural

forces. And so any sort of design would have had to be inputted miraculously. And as a materialistic

mindset set in, there's really no place for any sort of divine input after a while.

And so what intelligent design is doing and why it's so controversial is because it promises to redefine science.

I mean, it's saying intelligence is something that we can do science with.

We can identify intelligence. It's objectifiable. It's something we can get a handle on mathematically and empirically by looking at the world. And that's just very threatening to people. When you look at the universe and see the order and symmetry and design and beauty and function, how can anyone really deny

that there was a designer of all this, an intelligent designer. I find it very difficult.

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