God in Relationship: Advent and the Trinity with Rev. Dr. Michael Chen
The Allender Center Podcast
The Allender Center
4.7 • 648 Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
This Advent season, Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen are joined by Rev. Dr. Michael Chen for a rich and deeply human conversation about the Trinity and what it reveals to us about God, ourselves, and our relationships with others.
Together, they explore how the mystery of one God in three persons shapes our understanding of love, relationality, and beauty—particularly in the context of Advent, when we reflect on God's incarnation and presence in the world.
This episode is an invitation to pause, wonder, and engage your heart with the presence of God in this season of anticipation.
The podcast will take a short break next week for the holiday, but we'll be back on December 26 with an end-of-year reflection from Dan and Becky Allender.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Rachel Clinton Chen. For over 10 years, the Eleanor Center podcast has been sharing conversations about story, faith, and healing from trauma and abuse. So far, we've recorded over 600 episodes, all free and all available to anyone who needs them. |
| 0:24.3 | And here's the thing. We want to keep it that way. But producing each episode takes time, |
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| 1:27.3 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
| 1:28.9 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Cent. We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
| 1:33.7 | And restoration for the heart. |
| 1:36.0 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 1:37.4 | Let's get this conversation started. Rachel, we are in the delightful Advent season, and we have what I would consider to be a very remarkable, extraordinary, compelling, |
| 2:03.1 | essentially wild human being to join us. |
| 2:08.0 | Would you like to introduce this presence? |
| 2:13.4 | Sure. |
| 2:14.6 | We are very privileged today to be joined by the one and only Reverend Dr. Michael Chen, who also happens to be the love of my life. |
| 2:25.9 | Well, the right Reverend Dr. Michael Chen. |
| 2:32.3 | It's such an honor to have you here, and especially the first chance to be able |
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