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Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Go to on Creativity in the Movies (La La Land)

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.93.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Kelly and Tammy explore creativity through La La Land, a film that uses color like a second language and turns a highway traffic jam into magic. Tammy reflects on her own journey trying to make it in LA and why the film's authenticity around creative pursuit never fails to wreck her, while Kelly considers the deep self-belief required to chase any dream and the humiliation baked into trying. They talk about what happens when two people are more committed to their art than to each other, how the end of the film refuses to give us what we think we want, and why watching people struggle toward something they might not ever achieve is somehow the most relatable thing in the world. This episode was made possible by a grant from the John Templeton Foundation. To learn more, please visit: templeton.org To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody.

0:10.3

This short segment is called a go-to.

0:14.2

It refers back to this crazy thing we used to do at the end of our sorority meetings in college,

0:18.3

if you can believe that.

0:19.2

It was called for the good of the order.

0:20.6

And it was a way to share something that had emerged over the course of the week,

0:25.3

which really was a bit of learning or thinking or feeling that was to everyone's benefit to share.

0:33.4

And so that's all we'll do here. Every Friday, we release a go-to,

0:40.3

and we encourage you to share it with friends around the country.

0:45.7

We know that people use it as a way to stay in touch with their best friends across the country,

0:50.5

and, of course, far-flung family members, wherever they might be. And as for your local nearest and dearest,

0:53.4

consider it fodder for discussion over the

0:55.6

course of the weekend. This is Kelly Corrigan Wonders in our weekly segment called GoTo.

1:04.7

So we're having such a good time thinking about these super traits, thanks to the people at

1:10.0

John Templeton Foundation.

1:12.1

And the traits that we picked that we were drawn to were humility, which if you listen to the

1:17.1

pod, you know that we're sort of obsessed with intellectual humility and not just whole idea

1:21.1

has just been so game-changing for both of us personally. And then creativity and curiosity.

1:27.3

And so we thought as we're rolling out these

1:29.8

conversations on Tuesdays, that we might spend every Friday looking at films that all of us

1:34.6

love and are probably familiar with as models or exemplars of these super traits. So last week,

1:41.9

I talked about the Grand Budapest Hotel as this incredible example of a

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