Hello, I'm Carol Walton. Welcome to If Dules Could Talk.

And today I'm thrilled to be here with the legendary makeup artist, Val Garland.

She's an artist in the true sense of the world, always incorporating unexpected materials and colour in her work.

She originally trained as a hair colourist, which led her to makeup and creating runway looks for Alexander McQueen,

high-profile celebrity shoots and fashion spreads for Vogue.

In 2004, she received the Panantin Pro V makeup artist of the

Year award. In 2017, she was named as the first L'Oreal Paris Global Makeup Director, and she's a

judge on BBC TV's series, Glow Up, which is a competition to find Britain's next makeup star.

And she's come here today to tell us about a jewelry collaboration with the costume

jeweller Vicky Sage. So we wanted to know how you got started originally in makeup.

Well, I was already doing some makeup in Australia because in Australia, how you got started originally in makeup?

Well, I was already doing some makeup in Australia because in Australia you have to do hair and makeup.

It's just the way it is.

And it's very funny because I was about to get divorced.

I'd been married for 14 years and I had this like big...

So you must have got married, young?

Oh gosh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was a drummer and a band.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Very handsome at the time.

Yeah.

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