Hi, and welcome to Form Now. We are in the fifth part of a five-part series on the glorious mysteries of the Rosary. Today we are covering the coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary. And with me is Dr. Elizabeth Klein, who is a professor at the Graduate School. I just want to take a quick second to thank all of our Mission Circle members. Mission Circle is our small, monthly giving society, and it enables us here at the Augustin Institute and formed in the Graduate School to do so much. So we just thank you for your support and please consider if these conversations are benefiting you to give

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Thanks for having me.

I thought a good place to start is could you just walk us through what is the belief of this fifth mystery, the coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary? Right. So the church teaches that Mary, after her assumption, is crowned as

queen of heaven and earth. And I thought it was interesting that you titled this series of Bible

study on the mysteries of the rosary since the coronation of the version isn't explicitly

mentioned in scripture. So I thought that maybe we would start with talking about the scriptural basis of the doctrine

of themanship of Mary.

Yes, I think that is a good idea.

And as we mentioned in the last one when we covered the assumption, that, yes, these last two mysteries

in a particular way are difficult to find explicitly.

And so we rely, as so much of the Catholic tradition has, on typology, just the belief that

there's Old Testament prefigurements that can help bring us to a deeper understanding of what

is going on.

Right.

And I think with this mystery, too, I think it's just important to see how conceptually it comes from Scripture, even if sort of the event, if it can be called an event, isn't explicitly there. And so one thing that we really do draw some scripture, I think it's helpful to mention with regards to this mystery is why would Mary be the queen in the first place? Because we tend to think of the

queen as the wife of the king. So if Jesus is the king and Mary is Jesus' mother, then why

what's going on with her being the queen? So something that a number of biblical scholars have

talked about is that in sort of the ancient Near Eastern worldview and the Old Testament,

the mother of the king is typically understood to be the queen, the queen mother. And one of the

reasons for this is, of course, that ancient kings practice polygamy. So if there's too many queens,

lots of queens, too many queens if the wife is, if the wife is the queen. And actually the mother of the new king

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