Global Governance 2020: A discussion with Kaiser Kuo and Susan Thornton

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8 • 676 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Susan Thornton, former senior U.S. diplomat, returns to the Sinica Podcast this week. This conversation was recorded during the Princeton U.S.-China Coalition virtual event on August 1, 2020. Kaiser and Susan discuss the value of American diplomacy with China and if such engagement can help salvage what remains of a deeply strained bilateral relationship between China and the United States.

9:27: Swapping diplomacy for machismo at the State Department

23:06: The sharp falloff in candidates entering the U.S. Foreign Service

28:29: Fatalism and China

34:08: Distrust and vilify, Washington’s new China policy

Recommendations:

Susan: Mr. X and the Pacific: George F. Kennan and American Policy in East Asia, by Paul J. Heer.

Kaiser: The TV show Better Call Saul, available on Netflix.

This podcast was edited and produced by Kaiser Kuo and Jason MacRonald.

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1:26.1	I'm Kaiser Guo, coming to today from my home
1:27.7	in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Before I introduce my guest today, I want to thank the organizers
1:31.5	of this terrific event, which I've had the honor of participating in a few times now, and it's
1:35.5	always just wonderful. So a big thanks to Chris Walton, Jack Allen, Nikita Salgame, and especially
1:41.2	Owen Matthews. So today, I am honored to be joined today by someone I deeply, deeply admire a constant
1:48.5	source of wisdom and sensible thinking of just the very sort we desperately need right now.
1:53.5	Susan Thornton is a career Foreign Service Officer whose career in diplomacy span 30 years
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