Welcome to For the Love Podcast with the best-selling author, Jen Hatmaker.

Come on in and join us for a chat with Jen and friends about all the things we love.

Now here's Jen.

Hey everybody, it's Jen.

Welcome to the podcast.

This is The For the Love podcast.

I'm glad to have you this week.

Glad to have you every week.

Thanks for joining in.

We're in the middle of a series that I love so much that I extended it.

It's called For the Love of Moxie.

And it's sort of this, we're taking the idea out of the book that I just wrote of,

Mess and Moxie, this sort of concept of women who are fierce and strong and brave and interesting and smart

and building beautiful things and beautiful spaces and beautiful organizations and companies and ministries

and learning from them.

And without question, everyone of them has this twin story of having all this Moxie,

but having all this mess because these things go together, they are inseparable.

And so, and it's actually the mess that often leads to the Moxie.

So, I can't think of a better guest than my friend that I'm having on today to talk to us about these ideas

and what it looks like to rise back up and to be strong and to be courageous.

So, my dear friend, Glennon Doyle is on the podcast today and you probably know Glennon.

If you don't, let me just tell you a little bit about her before we start our conversation.

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