This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

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Hey guys, this is normally the part of the interview where I tell you who I'm talking to.

In this case, we're doing something slightly different.

This is a live interview I recorded last week in South by Southwest with Glenn Beck.

It's pretty great. Take a lesson.

Thank you for joining me. Thank you. You were broadcasting live from Austin this morning.

I tuned in. Yep. You were defending Samantha B. Yes. I think a lot of people, if they'd asked you,

if they'd thought about this a couple years ago, would be surprised to hear you defending Samantha Bee. Only because they believe the headlines and didn't know me. And then after 9-11, I defended Bill Maher on his comments, which was very unpopular

on talk radio. But what part of politically correct didn't they understand?

But let's, I mean, Samantha Bee used to work at the Daily Show, the Daily Show used to spend a lot of time really laying into you, I think justifiably. Yeah. But let's first of all just talk about what you were saying about Samantha Bee, and then we can work backwards from there today. So you were defending her why. If you don't know what Samantha B did, she sent a,

you know, a correspondent out to CPAC and they put a packaged bit together where they showed these

guys and what she said were Nazi haircuts. So they showed three people. One of them happened to be

somebody who was going through cancer treatment and had shaved their head.

And the sister of that person wrote in and said, you know, how dare they make fun of my brother?

He's got cancer.

Everybody became outraged.

She apologized.

There's no, there's no way she knew.

You know, she didn't select somebody out and like, who's got cancer?

Right. She wouldn't have done that. I know her, and I don't believe she would have done that to her worst enemy.

So let's pull back a little bit. Again, a few years ago, the idea of you defending Samantha Bee would have been a crazy idea.

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