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Ask Pastor John

Giving up on Church

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2014

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Pastor John exhorts believers, especially those tempted to give up on church, with four biblical reasons to seek out membership in a local body.

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0:00.0

In his recent blog posts, prominent Christian writer Donald Miller said he has graduated

0:10.1

out of the local church and that he rarely attends church anymore.

0:13.6

He says he actually feels more close to God when he's innovating and starting new initiatives

0:17.8

during the week than he does in church on any given Sunday.

0:21.1

One of his hang-ups is corporate worship.

0:22.9

Miller wrote this in the blog post, quote, I have a confession.

0:26.0

I don't connect with God by singing to him, not at all.

0:28.9

I know I'm nearly alone in this, but it's true.

0:31.1

I was finally able to admit this recently when I attended a church service that had perhaps

0:35.7

the most talented worship team I've ever heard.

0:38.8

I love the music, but I loved it more for the music than for the worship.

0:42.3

As far as connecting with God goes, I wasn't feeling much of anything, end quote.

0:47.6

But clearly it's more than just the music, and as clear he represents more than himself.

0:51.6

For many evangelicals, both young and old, the local church simply doesn't work any

0:56.4

longer as a place of worship.

0:58.0

And besides, no local church looks like the church is in acts anyways.

1:01.2

So why pretend that modern churches are of equal value to those in the first century?

1:06.7

Those are some of the entangled questions on the table now.

1:09.5

So Pastor John, what would you say to any evangelical Christian who believes that they have

1:13.0

graduated from or spiritually outgrown the local church or who believe corporate gatherings

1:18.4

on Sunday simply don't fit their personality type in worship preferences?

1:21.9

Well, there are a lot of issues here that I'm hearing in between the lines.

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