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Wonder Cabinet

Giving Is Complicated [Rebroadcast]

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Even the most welcome gift can spark guilt, resentment, obligation or vulnerability. This hour, unwrapping the tangled emotions behind giving — and getting.

Guests:

Megan Costello — Haddayr Copley-Woods — David Graeber — Anand Giridharadas — Elizabeth Dunn

Interviews In This Hour:

In A Medical Crisis, Small Gestures Are Life-Changing — The Problems With Help You Didn't Ask For — There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Gift — The Strings Attached To Big-Ticket Donations — Giving Happiness That Lasts, Rather Than Things That Take Up Space

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's to the best of our knowledge, and the holiday season is here.

0:04.9

Family get-togethers, delicious food, and gifts.

0:08.6

Everyone likes gifts, right?

0:11.3

Gifts make slaves like whips make dogs.

0:14.6

In the Middle Ages, there was a thing you could buy called the papal indulgence.

0:18.7

And what that allowed you to do was live a bad life,

0:21.5

and in time before the buzzer went off, pay some money, and get guaranteed passage to heaven.

0:28.4

What a lot of these rich folks are doing in our time is a form of secular papal indulgence.

0:34.1

The truth is, giving can be complicated. And there are lots of ways it can go wrong. A gift can be too big. It can create a sense of obligation, which seems so curmudgeonly, because who could resent a gift?

0:46.5

I will have people run over and push the elevator button for me. But sitting in a wheelchair doesn't actually affect your ability to push an elevator button.

0:54.6

I'm Anne Strangerain Champs.

0:55.7

Today, giving gets complicated.

1:02.7

Wisconsin Public Radio.

1:10.2

It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anstrandchamps.

1:16.6

It's the holiday season, so chances are you're shopping for presents. The kids want new hoodies or Lego sets.

1:25.8

Your mom wants yet another gardening tool.

1:28.9

And then there are the gifts that people wish they didn't have to ask for.

1:35.3

So my dad, his name is Jay Costello.

1:38.1

He and my mom live in Heartland, Wisconsin, just outside of the Milwaukee area.

1:42.7

When he was 56, he was diagnosed with multiple myeloma.

1:48.1

This is Meg Castello, and this is the story of the year her family had to ask for a really big gift.

1:56.2

Survival rates for myeloma and people with his form of myeloma is three to five years.

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