Do you guys study the concept of ego development, identifying where someone's own subconscious or

cognitive development has, at what point they're at based on their value and belief system?

Do you categorize people based off of that level? How are you categorizing people? Can you pick up

on a value system that they have? Have you ever seen, have you ever heard of spiral dynamics?

So I like where you're going with this, and I feel like it's a great chance to to bust a myth about CIA, right?

CIA specialize intelligence agencies in general that work in the field of human intelligence or human

collecting secrets from human beings.

We don't focus on psychology.

Like we use tools that have been developed through the science of psychology,

but we don't get into the academic nature of psychology

because everything we do has to be pragmatic and practical with an operational focus.

Think of it like applied psychology.

And I think that's really important because there's lots of people who are interested in

psychology.

So lots of psychology majors out there, right?

And there's a reason that most people who have studied or mastered or invested themselves

into psychology don't do much with it.

Because the focus around most psychology is academic.

Fucking spiral dynamics.

How do you turn that into money?

How do you turn that into an advantage on the battlefield?

How do you turn that into some sort of competitive secret in business or in national

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