It's the Bryan Lair Show on WNYC, I'm Nancy Solomon from the WNYC Newsroom.

On today's show, we'll take a closer look at three school districts in New Jersey that

are attempting to roll out a policy that would tell parents if their kids are showing signs

of changing their gender identities.

And we'll talk about all things retirement, when to do it, and how, and we'll end the

show about an effort to do a census on fireflies, the bugs across New York.

But first, Rudy Giuliani and Rico.

Before he was Trump's personal attorney, before he trafficked in conspiracy theories, even

before he was mayor of New York City, Giuliani was a prosecutor.

As U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, he utilized Rico, the Racketeer

Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, as part of an aggressive strategy to bring

down the mob.

Four decades later, Giuliani, along with Donald Trump and 17 other co-defendants, faces

organized crime charges in Georgia under the state's Rico law for his role in the conspiracy

to overturn the 2020 election.

So today, we'll dig into those charges and explain Rico.

Joining me now is Jill Wine Banks, MSNBC Legal Analyst and Former Watergate Special

Prosecutor.

Jill is also co-host of the podcast's hashtag Sisters in Law and I Gen Politics.

And the author of the book The Watergate Girl, my fight for truth and justice against a

criminal president.

Jill, welcome back to WNYC.

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