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Gita Gopinath on the Global Economy

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Foreign Policy

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4.1622 Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Economics is sometimes called the “dismal science.” But the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has a surprisingly positive outlook for the U.S. economy—even if public sentiment hasn’t yet caught up. Host Ravi Agrawal discusses the state of the global economy with Gita Gopinath, the IMF’s first deputy managing director. The two begin with Gopinath’s latest essay in Foreign Policy about trade fragmentation and fears of a new Cold War.  Suggested reading: Gita Gopinath: How Policymakers Should Handle a Fragmenting World Adam Posen: America’s Zero-Sum Economics Doesn’t Add Up Adam Tooze: The IMF is an anchor adrift in a changing world economy And FP is looking for a new producer of this show. If you’d like to work with us, please check out the job description: https://foreignpolicy.com/employment-opportunities/.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:34.5

editor-in-chief. This is FP Live. Welcome to the show. We are at a turning point.

0:44.0

You often hear that line from U.S. President Joe Biden, but this time those words are actually not

0:50.2

those of a politician. It's the first sentence in a new essay in foreign policy by Gita Gopinath,

0:56.9

the first deputy managing director of the International Monetary Fund. She makes the case that as countries

1:03.1

look to de-risk and Frenchore, to use the jargon of the moment, trade is fragmenting. Not only that,

1:10.8

but it's fragmenting along the lines of who supports

1:13.1

which superpower, the United States or China. We're back to blocks, in other words, and it could

1:19.8

lead to a new Cold War. All of this comes amid a tricky time for the global economy, battered as

1:26.2

it's been since the pandemic. Central banks have

1:28.9

been trying to raise interest rates just enough to reduce inflation, but not so much so as to

1:35.8

cause a recession. And success in that juggling act is what economists call a soft landing. Something the

1:42.9

IMF says is quite possible this year. The IMF also

1:46.9

thinks, it turns out, that America's economy is doing very well to use Gopinat's words,

1:52.5

even if everyone doesn't feel it just yet. So is Russia's, despite the West's best attempts to

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